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Episod 769 Talkback: Comic Talk: News Edition

#1 User is offline   brydeemer 

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 01:03 PM

Lots of comic news.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 03:07 PM

Web of Spider-Man is just Spider-Man Family with a new title and new numbering. It's not an extra title, it's a replacement of one that had been coming out for ages without you complaining about it.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 03:18 PM

with the spiderman movies, and other comic book/superhero movies, why can't they be more like james bond... holy crap, deemer just suggested this same thing at the point that i typed "james bond". anyway... some good some bad, but at least it's this huge behemoth of a franchise that has a movie every 3-6 years. and doesn't get bogged down in who's playing the lead. it's almost what the mid 90s batman could have been, or has become, except there was a long gap. and same for superman. those two franchises took too long.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 03:30 PM



I'm glad the Spider franchise is getting a do-over. I think that Raimi & Toby McGuire's era was good but had come to an end. It's probably not a good idea for the same creative team to do more than 3 of these franchise films in a row.


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Posted 18 January 2010 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE (Brack @ Jan 18 2010, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Web of Spider-Man is just Spider-Man Family with a new title and new numbering. It's not an extra title, it's a replacement of one that had been coming out for ages without you complaining about it.


But wasn't Family cancelled shortly after Brand New Day? The current Web series is ok, it pretty much has some ancillary stories that tie into the 3xmonth Amazing as well as the Spider-Girl stuff. It is definitely marketed as an addition to ASM. Now what is this Peter Parker #1? A reprint of a marvel.com webcomic? I am not sure if I need that for my Spider-Man reading.

This conversation reminded me; where is this month's preview ep?

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (JonathanCrites @ Jan 18 2010, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But wasn't Family cancelled shortly after Brand New Day?


No. It changed its name to "Amazing Spider-Man Family", but its last issue was coverdated September 2009.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 05:22 PM

If a key word IF Amazing starts a "comics race" to #1000. I would hope DC would bring back Action Comics Weekly (second try at). An Action Comics should be the only comic to reach 1,000 issues. A Superman (Action) comic coming out in about a 10 years w/ Action #1,000 before Amazing do so in 15 to 25 years to reach Amazing #1000. Also I am stopping Amazing at #624 for me personally until the Marvelous marriage of MJ/ Peter returns OR another steady relationship w/ Peter & someone else comes into play. I will try the Women of Marvel comics & She-Hulk one shot for something different w/ Marvel. Also dont have Spider Man and the number 4 on the next movie called it Spider Man: (insert subtitle here). The number 4 on a comic book movie series is the death's nail on it period.

And I will try out Blackest Night & JLI miniseries for a few issues but it has to hook me soon no more Countdown/Trinity crap.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 06:31 PM

It's too bad that Sam Raimi won't get to make amends for Spider-Man 3, but if a reboot means no more forced Jesus metaphors or Tobey Maguire sleepwalking his way to a paycheck, then I'm okay with that. Just keep JK Simmons as JJJ is all I ask.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 06:32 PM

just a small comment. SM3 didn't make less money that SM1/SM2 worldwide (it was the most successful of the 3 WW 900m) but it made the least money domestically.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:05 PM

Did you guys make the connection with a potential younger spider name movie with Bendis Ultimate Spider Man. Maybe since that was successful, maybe they want to use that as starting point for the movie.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:21 PM

If Shane gets his JLI title, then I want my West Coast Avengers!!!

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Brack @ Jan 18 2010, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Web of Spider-Man is just Spider-Man Family with a new title and new numbering. It's not an extra title, it's a replacement of one that had been coming out for ages without you complaining about it.


I wasn't certain of how Web of actually came back just that I saw a new Web of starting at #1 recently. My point was, since the current Previews shows Web of as part of the Gauntlet storyline running in ASM it defeats the purpose of trimming the Spidey titles down to ASM. Even though ASM is a few times a month it was still one title to get all the main Spidey stories by adding Web of to this now there is more than one Spidey title in order to get the whole story. I was only pointing out that Marvel already messed up what they built up by only having ASM.

DC does the same thing, especially now that we have two JSA titles, multiple JLA, and especially many many Bat titles. Even though I think the Bat titles are pretty good I don't know how long I am going to keep getting all of them since it is so so many multi book titles. I was actually pretty impressed with Marvel to keep ASM they way it was. By adding Web of to this I am a little disappointed.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 08:17 PM

Here are the links (plus some) I sent to the guys in the show notes for the various news bits talked about in the ep:

Spider-Man movie reboot
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/urgent-s...reboot-planned/

DC announcements
Next bi-weekly event: Brightest Day: http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/01/11/dc...ome-major-news/
Gail Simone and Ed Benes back on Birds of Prey: http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/01/13/dc...-birds-of-prey/
Paul Levitz and the Legion of Super-Heroes: http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/01/14/dc...and-the-legion/
Justice League: Generation Lost: http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/01/12/dc...eneration-lost/

Wild Pig news
http://www.thecomicforums.com/forum2//inde...howtopic=164888

Avengers titles shake up post-Siege
http://comics.ign.com/articles/106/1061476p1.html

Marvel's Deadpool variant pr
http://www.thecomicforums.com/forum2//inde...howtopic=164780
Brian Hibbs: http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24429
Retailers: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/01/14/r...mics-promotion/
And more retailers: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/marvel-sie...-dc-100115.html


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Posted 18 January 2010 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (Shane Kelly @ Jan 18 2010, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wasn't certain of how Web of actually came back just that I saw a new Web of starting at #1 recently. My point was, since the current Previews shows Web of as part of the Gauntlet storyline running in ASM it defeats the purpose of trimming the Spidey titles down to ASM. Even though ASM is a few times a month it was still one title to get all the main Spidey stories by adding Web of to this now there is more than one Spidey title in order to get the whole story. I was only pointing out that Marvel already messed up what they built up by only having ASM.

DC does the same thing, especially now that we have two JSA titles, multiple JLA, and especially many many Bat titles. Even though I think the Bat titles are pretty good I don't know how long I am going to keep getting all of them since it is so so many multi book titles. I was actually pretty impressed with Marvel to keep ASM they way it was. By adding Web of to this I am a little disappointed.


It's not essential to the Gauntlet story. It's for side stories. As always with Marvel & DC, how a comic is marketed isn't necessarily what you're getting when you buy it. It might be more obvious if you're reading the main Spidey book, but Gauntlet isn't really this cohesive continuing story line, it's more just a label they've put on a series of stories that have a loose connection (the new Kraven) that's leading to a specific as yet unknown story (though the Sinister 666 seems likely). Web of Spider-Man remains inessential, unless you're a Spider-Girl fan.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 10:00 PM

Web of Spider-Man is basically a combination of (Amazing) Spider-Man Family and Amazing Spider-Man Extra. So far Web has been awful. Extra was not a monthly (I think it came out every three months or so) and you got three good stories that tied into Amazing Spider-Man without being essential. Now with Web you get one good story, one Spider-Girl story (which I have no interest in) and an awful "silly" story. Marvel ruined a great book. thumbsdown_anim.gif
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 11:41 PM

i honestly don't see how that spider-man reboot news is anything but a good thing.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 01:51 AM

My feelings on the Spider-man title - it had it ups and downs after 600, but the Gauntlet story has been awesome. I don't think the first book of every month is $3.99 but they do have an extra-sized issue every 2 to 3 months. As for Web of Spiderman title, I am avoiding that and I am still enjoying the Gauntlet story. I think of Web of Spider-man as the director-cut version of the weekly Spider-man book. Nice to have but not a must have.

My feelings on the Avengers titles - I doubt they would do exactly the same thing they are doing with Spider-man. Spider-man works because it is one character. The Avengers is a team book with some of the characters in other books. I think it would be too hard to coordinate. Now, they might treat Avengers like they do Uncanny X-Men, which they publish about 18 issues a year. Bendis still will be the main writer and with a couple of spin-offs.

My feelings on Brightest Day - I don't have a problem with the bi-weekly series and they both sound pretty good. I am not sure the issue with a comic book being published twice a month when there are mini-franchises where there are multiple books a month that are linked to each other (i.e. Agents of Atlas, Marvel Cosmic, Hulk, and Superman). I also wouldn't call Brightest Day an event. It seems more of a brand/theme than a crossover event. When people say "event", people tend to associate that with crossovers.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 01:51 AM

Here is a video of Elizabeth-Amber's latest review of Mr. Stuffins & CGS got a shoutout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POAuNR6K1DA

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 03:05 AM

Don't think Avengers will get the Spiderman treatment, and I honestly don't want it to.
Marvel teased/mentioned some kind of Street Level event/book a while back maybe that will be the 2nd-Tier Avengers title assuming the Thor, Iron Man, Cap is the main book in the line. Be nice to see Iron Fist come back in some capacity!

I'm already kind of sick of Blackest Night, so I have 0 excitement for Brightest Day, but I'll make a decision once it gets closer to coming out and maybe will even try it out for a few issues.

Thanks for giving me some holiday entertainment guys!
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 03:25 AM

By my calculations Action Comics will reach #1000 in August of 2019.

If Amazing Spider-Man continues at 3 times a month it will reach #1000 in July of 2020.
If it comes out 4 times a month then #1000 will come out in October of 2017.

That's IF my math is right.
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