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Major Avengers shake-up in April All four ongoings getting canceled

#1 User is offline   Fred Ricchio 

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 12:50 AM

According to this article at IGN:

April solicitations preview

Obviously some of these will be relaunched with new #1's. Theres the rumors that Initiative will become Avengers Academy or something like that. I would imagine Dark Avengers is done for good, though.

Oh, and if, like me, you never really believed that Siege was going to stay a "small" event, they also list 5 additional one-shots, plus Fallen
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 12:57 AM

Ding Dong the Bendis nightmare is almost over.

Bring back the REAL Avengers please.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 01:08 AM

Wonder what happens to my mail order sub for Mighty Avengers?
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 01:22 AM

QUOTE (mguy1977 @ Jan 15 2010, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ding Dong the Bendis nightmare is almost over.

Bring back the REAL Avengers please.

Matthew


THIS! Avengers was one of my favorite comics before Bendis came along...

Odds are he'll be writing whatever new Avengers series that comes out of all this
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 01:28 AM

i'm sure everything is just getting relaunched, and i expect Bendis and Slott will still be the writers.
I hope they don't leave. I didn't really enjoy Avengers before Bendis.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 01:33 AM

I really hope they have just one Avengers book. Or at least one "main" Avengers book. And I hope someone other than Bendis writes it.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 02:19 AM

i think 2 books should be enough for the stories they could tell. but from Marvel's standpoint? 2 would be too few. laughingsmiley.gif
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 04:31 AM

Judging by how they started Siege I'm guessing that the cancellations of the books means they're bringing back some form of the original team back. Cap & Thor are back, Stark is on the rebound from his little "hard drive wipe," Pym is calling himself the Wasp (two fer one there) and Banner seems to be regaining his ability to Hulk out. My theory is that some how THE Avengers are going to have to team back up to repeal Osborn & the Dark Avengers from Asgard and they realize that the world needs them as a team. Of course Spidey, Wolverine, Herc, Amadeus and whatever other Avengers are filling out the rosters at the moment will act as back up or something.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 04:46 AM

QUOTE (mguy1977 @ Jan 15 2010, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ding Dong the Bendis nightmare is almost over.

Bring back the REAL Avengers please.

Matthew


So which Avengers writer wrote the "real" Avengers? I assume you are a prior Avengers fan, and thus are actually comparing Bendis' work to someone else's? So who in your experience writes them the "real" way?

Personally, I've really dug New Avengers. Month in and month out it has been one of my favorite superhero books. So I am hoping when the Avengers are relaunched that Bendis is still writing one of them. I've enjoyed Dark Avengers, but it always an interim idea, so if it does indeed leave the stage going out on top, that might be a cool move. Or maybe it will just relaunch, we'll see.

I just hope that, whatever relaunches in 'The Heroic Age' that Dan Slott and Christos Gage still have team books to write. I ended up dropping Avengers Initiative and Mighty Avengers because I was just buying too many books, but their work on those titles was really solid.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:03 AM

QUOTE (David D. @ Jan 16 2010, 04:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So which Avengers writer wrote the "real" Avengers? I assume you are a prior Avengers fan, and thus are actually comparing Bendis' work to someone else's? So who in your experience writes them the "real" way?


I don't wish to speak for the OP, but for me it would be Busiek. But then, I first started reading Avengers during Heroes Return, so I guess thats why I think of him as being "my" Avengers writer. Johns' subsequent run before Disassembled was also good.

I think, post-Siege, the ideal solution would be to have two core Avengers books. Let Bendis write one focusing on the street-level heroes (the types of stories for which I think he is far better suited) and give the other one to someone like Slott or Gage or Parker, who have a better handle on how to do "old-school" Avengers stories. Marvel has certainly expanded the franchise to the point where its big enough to accomodate different types of storytelling. I just don't want to see one writer's vision governing the direction of all the books, as has been largely the case since Bendis took over with Disassembled.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:06 AM

QUOTE (Fred Ricchio @ Jan 16 2010, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't wish to speak for the OP, but for me it would be Busiek. But then, I first started reading Avengers during Heroes Return, so I guess thats why I think of him as being "my" Avengers writer. Johns' subsequent run before Disassembled was also good.

I think, post-Siege, the ideal solution would be to have two core Avengers books. Let Bendis write one focusing on the street-level heroes (the types of stories for which I think he is far better suited) and give the other one to someone like Slott or Gage or Parker, who have a better handle on how to do "old-school" Avengers stories. Marvel has certainly expanded the franchise to the point where its big enough to accomodate different types of storytelling. I just don't want to see one writer's vision governing the direction of all the books, as has been largely the case since Bendis took over with Disassembled.


I will agree that Busiek's run was also excellent.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:08 AM

Just sick of all this "real" avengers bullsh*t. The current Avengers are as real as any other version of the Avengers.
So if you weren't an Avenger before 1985 you just aren't legitimate?

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:10 AM

I was only getting Mighty and the Initiative... I only started with Mighty because Hercules was in it and Gage was on it... but from the issues it seems more like Slott than Gage.

Initiative is freaking awesome though, I love that book. I wonder what it will be retooled as...


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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:13 AM

The great thing about it is that one of the new series will be relaunched with a new #1 and will randomly shift to the numbering of New Avengers, and then Avengers vol1, just in time for various milestone issues.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE (David D. @ Jan 15 2010, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So which Avengers writer wrote the "real" Avengers? I assume you are a prior Avengers fan, and thus are actually comparing Bendis' work to someone else's? So who in your experience writes them the "real" way?

Personally, I've really dug New Avengers. Month in and month out it has been one of my favorite superhero books. So I am hoping when the Avengers are relaunched that Bendis is still writing one of them. I've enjoyed Dark Avengers, but it always an interim idea, so if it does indeed leave the stage going out on top, that might be a cool move. Or maybe it will just relaunch, we'll see.

I just hope that, whatever relaunches in 'The Heroic Age' that Dan Slott and Christos Gage still have team books to write. I ended up dropping Avengers Initiative and Mighty Avengers because I was just buying too many books, but their work on those titles was really solid.


My motto is anyone BUT Bendis & my favorite Avengers writer is Byrne & Busiek from Avengers Forever. Bendis broke them up let some other writer bring the trio back together.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:20 AM

QUOTE (ljacone @ Jan 15 2010, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wonder what happens to my mail order sub for Mighty Avengers?


I had this happen to me on the Incredible Hulk/Herc switch. Mine got switched over to Hulk, so my guess is that you will get the "New Relauched" Avengers title. But I think there is a way on your Marvel Sub account to change it to what you want it to switch too.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:24 AM

QUOTE (mguy1977 @ Jan 16 2010, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My motto is anyone BUT Bendis & my favorite Avengers writer is Byrne & Busiek from Avengers Forever. Bendis broke them up let some other writer bring the trio back together.

Matthew


Got it. So I hope you won't be disappointed when "The Heroic Age" ends up being the trio of the current Captain America, Iron Man and Thor, as opposed to, say, a collection of Avengers in their past and future incarnations traveling through time.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:29 AM

In and interview I recently heard Bendis said there was going to me MAJOR shake ups for the Avengers titles and that he was still going to be a big part of it. I was thinking it may be taking the Spidey route and having one book three times a month. But that is just a guess. But either way he is going to be writing at least one Avengers book. I have really enjoyed New Avengers so I am looking forward to whatever is next. I would rather it be less titles than more though.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 05:34 AM

QUOTE (Wilson-3d @ Jan 16 2010, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In and interview I recently heard Bendis said there was going to me MAJOR shake ups for the Avengers titles and that he was still going to be a big part of it. I was thinking it may be taking the Spidey route and having one book three times a month. But that is just a guess. But either way he is going to be writing at least one Avengers book. I have really enjoyed New Avengers so I am looking forward to whatever is next. I would rather it be less titles than more though.


That's a good point- the Amazing Spider-Man seems like it has been a successful model both in singles, and for getting trades and hardcovers out faster. I would definitely be up for the four current titles being replaced by a thrice-monthly Avengers book with Bendis, Gage, and Slott as rotating writers.

One other thing-- while I am not surprised a number of Siege one-shots are tacked on at the end, at least most of them are $2.99
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 06:35 AM

Real Avengers? Then why is Cap in this "real" avengers? There were only five original avengers.
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