[brydeemer]

More Thor baby!

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Bry

[rebis]

Just a bit more on Thor and how/why he may have fallen quicker then one would think he should.

During Thor's battle with his Grandpa, Thor broke Mjölnir. In order to fix it, Dr. Strange had to use the Odin Force that was resident with Thor, and perhaps even a portion of Thor's own power to reforge the hammer.

[rebis]

"or a cowboy who rides an ostrich" while eating pudding!

sorry. had to do it.

Put me down as someone that would also buy the Dark Avengers on the Island of Misfit Toys.

[Jamie D]

Just a bit more on Thor and how/why he may have fallen quicker then one would think he should.

During Thor's battle with his Grandpa, Thor broke Mjölnir. In order to fix it, Dr. Strange had to use the Odin Force that was resident with Thor, and perhaps even a portion of Thor's own power to reforge the hammer.

Good Point....totally forgot about that, all part of Loki's machinations

This post has been edited by Jamie D: 15 January 2010 - 05:43 PM

[irishlep77]

I soooooo see this as the event that, as they say, "brings the band back together." What I would like to see though (and this may have already played out) is the promised conversation between Tony and Thor about what Tony did with the clone and with Steve. I could see that happening after the Siege is over.

[The Electric Mayhem]

definitely feels like the end is coming and the "Heroic Age" is a healing that the Mavel Universe has needed since Civil War

[Russ-L]

I soooooo see this as the event that, as they say, "brings the band back together." What I would like to see though (and this may have already played out) is the promised conversation between Tony and Thor about what Tony did with the clone and with Steve. I could see that happening after the Siege is over.

I smell a Siege: The Confession book coming up.

[Marty Devine]

Being a product of that industry, it really burned my ass that Marvel continuously called the foul-up at the end of this issue a "printing" error.
Bull Shite! An editorial or a pre-press error definitely, not a "printing" error.
True, it was an error that it was printed that way, but it was messed-up before it even got to the presses.

Just watchin' the backs of my fellow press apes.

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[Webhead]

The reason Maria Hill is there and why Tony is being taken care of by Don Blake is...



After S.I. Tony went on the run because before leaving S.H.I.E.L.D. he erased all the real IDs of the heroes, and the only other source for the info was Tony himself. So Tony infected himself with a virus to erase his memory. He sent Maria on a quest to retrive a special hard drive that he had hidden. So as Tony was on the run he kept losing all his memories until when he was caught by Norman he was nothing but a mental veggie. He had written orders if he was in a state of mental incapacitation that his doctor Don Blake would be put in charge of Tony's body. Like all good computer people Tony had made a back up of his brain and that is what was on the hard drive he sent Maria after. Tony left instructions on how to reload his memories, which required both Thor and Captain America's shield. The procedure was preformed but Tony has not woken up.

[rebis]

The reason Maria Hill is there and why Tony is being taken care of by Don Blake is...



After S.I. Tony went on the run because before leaving S.H.I.E.L.D. he erased all the real IDs of the heroes, and the only other source for the info was Tony himself. So Tony infected himself with a virus to erase his memory. He sent Maria on a quest to retrive a special hard drive that he had hidden. So as Tony was on the run he kept losing all his memories until when he was caught by Norman he was nothing but a mental veggie. He had written orders if he was in a state of mental incapacitation that his doctor Don Blake would be put in charge of Tony's body. Like all good computer people Tony had made a back up of his brain and that is what was on the hard drive he sent Maria after. Tony left instructions on how to reload his memories, which required both Thor and Captain America's shield. The procedure was preformed but Tony has not woken up.

Awesome! Thanks for the info.

It's probably just me, but I really like Maria Hill as a character. I hope she sticks around and has a part in the Heroic Age.

[Hassan T]

I think you guys should have a subtitle for this episode called "Getting Pants Caught Up on the Marvel Universe under 60 Minutes"

I loved Siege #1. It isn't deep at all, but it was a very entertaining comic book. While I thought the Dark Reign tie-ins and minis to be lackluster, I thought what Bendis did in his Avengers titles, as well as, Fraction in Iron Man and Uncanny X-Men over the past year, was very well down and I look forward to seeing how this mini ends and the new status quo in New Avengers and Dark Avengers. I am not convinced that the start of the Heroic Age means an end to Spider-man and Wolverine on the Avengers. I think it means that end of the "Street" Avengers. Honestly, I never minded both of those characters to be on the Avengers. I thought it was interesting and it also allowed the Avengers to become the focal point of the Marvel Universe.

As for Coipel, he already has my vote of best artist in 2010. I fell in loved with his art with Legion #1 but I would agree that his art today is 10 times better than it was years ago. And he should get a lot of credit for the success of this book. While I loved the book, if Marvel gotten any artist on the book, I might be singing a different note.

I also agree with Jamie that the Thor book without JMS is still going strong.

It is a good time to be an Avengers fan.

[Jamie D]

I think you guys should have a subtitle for this episode called "Getting Pants Caught Up on the Marvel Universe under 60 Minutes"

I loved Siege #1. It isn't deep at all, but it was a very entertaining comic book. While I thought the Dark Reign tie-ins and minis to be lackluster, I thought what Bendis did in his Avengers titles, as well as, Fraction in Iron Man and Uncanny X-Men over the past year, was very well down and I look forward to seeing how this mini ends and the new status quo in New Avengers and Dark Avengers. I am not convinced that the start of the Heroic Age means an end to Spider-man and Wolverine on the Avengers. I think it means that end of the "Street" Avengers. Honestly, I never minded both of those characters to be on the Avengers. I thought it was interesting and it also allowed the Avengers to become the focal point of the Marvel Universe.

As for Coipel, he already has my vote of best artist in 2010. I fell in loved with his art with Legion #1 but I would agree that his art today is 10 times better than it was years ago. And he should get a lot of credit for the success of this book. While I loved the book, if Marvel gotten any artist on the book, I might be singing a different note.

I also agree with Jamie that the Thor book without JMS is still going strong.

It is a good time to be an Avengers fan.

TESTIFY my Avengers loving brother....I am gearing up for the start of a Jamies Essentials Avengers....gonna be like 12 parts at least

[The Electric Mayhem]

TESTIFY my Avengers loving brother....I am gearing up for the start of a Jamies Essentials Avengers....gonna be like 12 parts at least

oooooo.. just got goosebumps... awesome!

This post has been edited by saberdrake: 15 January 2010 - 10:49 PM

[bamfbamf]

This episode is why I love listening to you guys!!!

The interactions between Pants, Murd and Jamie are awesome!

It's like Brian and Peter are the parents...

Murd is the smart aleck youngest kid (Linus)

Pants is the nerdy disfunctional middle child that everyone picks on

Jamie is the older brother dropping the wisdom and keeping everyone in line

LOVE IT!

and Shane could be the uncle from out of town

[rebis]

and Shane could be the uncle from out of town

As long as he's not the "scary" uncle.

[Webhead]

As long as he's not the "scary" uncle.

or the "Uncle we don't talk about"

[DarkKnightJared]

definitely feels like the end is coming and the "Heroic Age" is a healing that the Mavel Universe has needed since Civil War

It's odd to hear this being said over and again, because I don't believe it'll be the case. Reason being that I remember Marvel and co. talking about Secret Invasion and saying that SI was the big book that ties up the arc that Bendis had created and SI would lead on to more brighter, optimistic stories--they even called it a "Heroic Age." Of course, we know that wasn't the case.

Because of that, I'm thinking we won't get that at all--I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Doom is going to get some power from Asgard and that he's going to be ruling the MU for the next year or so.

[max headroom]

It's like Brian and Peter are the parents...

So who wears the PANTS in this relationship?

[The Electric Mayhem]

It's odd to hear this being said over and again, because I don't believe it'll be the case. Reason being that I remember Marvel and co. talking about Secret Invasion and saying that SI was the big book that ties up the arc that Bendis had created and SI would lead on to more brighter, optimistic stories--they even called it a "Heroic Age." Of course, we know that wasn't the case.

Because of that, I'm thinking we won't get that at all--I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Doom is going to get some power from Asgard and that he's going to be ruling the MU for the next year or so.

I had not even thought of Doom.... whoa... that would be quite interesting, after all the saying goes: "Nature abhors a vacumn..."

So, who would have the "power" in the MU if Osborn is gone? Doom? very interesting indeed.

[David D.]

I won't get a chance to hear the episode until tomorrow, but I am reposting my thoughts on Siege #1 since this seems to be the more active thread on it, and I thought it could use some support:

Read it today, and I really dug it. I thought it was a much stronger start than Secret Invasion (though I enjoyed that first issue, too). I know the Chicago incident is very reminiscent of the beginning of Civil War, but I feel that is entirely on purpose: Norman is trying to manufacture a media event patterned after Stamford, in the hopes that he can become the next Tony Stark and finally win over the public (as well as make a power grab over the Presdident's head in the chaos of it all). That worked for me. Other things I liked about it

- I love that it is only 4 issues, and the pace of this first issue felt like it was going to be 4 issues instead of 8
- I love Ares as the General
- I love that this is Norman's Waterloo. This is where he overreaches, and where he picks a fight he can't win.
- The UFOES were perfect casting to be Norman's Nitro and company
- I like that the scene with The President was played with him in shadow, as there has been quite enough face time for him in comics lately. I thought that was nice restraint.
- I like the way the Thor beatdown was played- I think Marty is exactly right that, as the perspective was what it would be like to be watching it on CNN, that Thor's defeat that way is going to end up eliciting sympathy in the public, and that this is another part of the big miscalculation that Norman is making.
- It is fun that Loki is behind it all, as this clearly is leading back to the original Avengers getting back together.

I will admit that it is a quick read, due to all the splash pages, but I think it is a satisfying start. My hope for the remaining issues is that there is room for a little more nuance, and some character scenes like what Victoria Hand got in this issue, but we'll see. But I dug it, and look forward to the next one.