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Episode 658 Talkback: Blackest Night Issue 1

#1 User is offline   brydeemer 

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 11:51 AM

I apologize for the sound quality. We had to move back to the old studio for a week and something just wasn't right.

Listen here

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 12:23 PM

One of the best beat downs.... ever!

I'm going to go get my plastic Black lantern ring and listen to this puppy ASAP!



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Post icon  Posted 20 July 2009 - 01:10 PM

Johns & Perez's Legion of 3 Worlds FINALLY comes out this Wednesday!

No, I dont want Azrael back.

Blackest Night #1 KICKED ASS!!!

5 out of 5!!! Comic Excellence!!!!

Unless Ryan Reynolds pulls a Bale quality performance I will always think of him as Van Wilder.

I appreciate the dedicated effort for putting the podcast together guys.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 02:20 PM

Blackest Night Predictions/Thoughts

Alan Scott is going to die.
There's going to be some sort of White Lantern.
Due to the Anti-Monitor, your going to have something with Barry Allen and Crisis.
Barry Allen dies again.
Tons of gratuitous violence.
Batman and his skeleton is going to have something to do with the outcome of the story.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 02:28 PM

The Ryan Reynolds rant at the end was hilarious!

Peter, did you feel the same way about Lawrence Olivier playing all those Henrys? wink.gif

I didn't have a preference as to who played Hal, but after Bradley Cooper did Jennifer Aniston the way he did. I think he has Hal's spirit down.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:08 PM

Great Episode Guys! Thanks for taking Umak off of our hands for a while...smile.gif

Just wanted to mention that the Episode 50 that Adam mentioned of Legion of Dudes will be LIVE!! on Stickam Aug. 2nd 9PM EST and we will be giving away many prizes from fine folks like Top Cow, Zenescope, Magnolia Films, Top Shelf and many others. live.legionofdudes.com is the address.

Nathan Fillion should've been Hal Jordan and my mind cannot be changed on this.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:10 PM

great episode guys. thanks for playing my voicemail thumbsup_anim.gif
I thought your scores out of 5 were harsh though. tough crowd laughingsmiley.gif
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:11 PM

(Like Usual) I agree with Jamie on a lot of his points. From the point Geoff Johns has been the main guy at DC, characters have been dying left and right. Its kind of a downer if you think about it for too long.

As for the Black Lantern and Lantern corp. in general, its kind of silly of you dwell on it too long, but I guess so is most superhero elements.

And in my opinion, Geoff Johns does not write very accessible superhero comics, so I think that criticisms that this wasn't accessible are kind of odd. His books have always been heavily drenched in the liquid of continuity, so I don't really get the criticism.

Ryan Reynolds would be a good Kyle Rayner (IMO).

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:20 PM

It's not about writing "accessible comics". It's about writing comics that fire the imagination and get people interested in wanting to know more. If you want accessible comics, get Claremont to write everything. Keep in mind the voicemail on this episode that said Infinite Crisis got them into comics. Sounds like a counterpoint to your generalization to me.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:22 PM

Can't remember if it was mentioned in the ep or not, but there's DC's Blackest Night mini (?) site. You can also download the Free Comic Book Day Blackest Night 0 issue:
http://www.dccomics.com/sites/greenlantern/
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:24 PM

Other CGS-Green Lantern related episodes:

Spotlight on Green Lantern:
http://www.comicgeekspeak.com/episodes/com...k_speak-819.php

Sinestro Corps War:
http://www.comicgeekspeak.com/episodes/com...k_speak-481.php
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE (spider-neil @ Jul 20 2009, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought your scores out of 5 were harsh though. tough crowd laughingsmiley.gif


I felt that I should probably have explained my rating.

I enjoyed Sinestro Corp War pretty much. And since I haven't really been reading much DC at all, I was excited about the prospect of Blackest Night. I generally really enjoy Johns's writing, so I was hoping for something to suck me back into the DCU.

Blackest Night 0 really didn't move me at all. I knew it was a prelude, so I didn't really count that. Then I read #1, and while I thought it was a pretty entertaining issue, it didn't really suck me in.

I'm not sure why, but for some reason, despite all that happened, I just didn't care that dead heroes where being resurrected and in turn were killing more people.

I'm hopefull that issue 2 will do a little more to excite me. I want this to be an awesome series.

Bry

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE (Peter @ Jul 20 2009, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not about writing "accessible comics". It's about writing comics that fire the imagination and get people interested in wanting to know more. If you want accessible comics, get Claremont to write everything. Keep in mind the voicemail on this episode that said Infinite Crisis got them into comics. Sounds like a counterpoint to your generalization to me.


I think you kind of missed my point. I agree with you. My point was that to criticism him for not writing accessible comics is kind of irrelevant and odd.

As to Infinite Crisis, it was not really a jumping on point, but a means to a jumping on point. Sure you could have read Infinite Crisis as your first DC comic (it was actually only my second DC comic behind Rebirth). Was it accessible? I say no. I'll argue that. Just because someone says something in a voicemail doesn't make it the only valid opinion. I can argue that Infinite Crisis are not accessible. It actually doesn't make too much sense if you read it on its own like I did. Now, if you read the original Crisis then it makes a lot more sense.

I honestly don't give a fuck if Geoff Johns is writing accessible comics, because if he doesn't its not like I'm going to lose sleep over it. I accept it as a weakness in his writing.

P.S. Chris Clairemont is not a good writer. Just had to get my piece in.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (Bryan Deemer @ Jul 20 2009, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I apologize for the sound quality. We had to move back to the old studio for a week and something just wasn't right.

Listen here

Bry


I totally agree with Bryan, I think they all will be back!!!

JP
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE (Bryan Deemer @ Jul 20 2009, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I felt that I should probably have explained my rating.

I enjoyed Sinestro Corp War pretty much. And since I haven't really been reading much DC at all, I was excited about the prospect of Blackest Night. I generally really enjoy Johns's writing, so I was hoping for something to suck me back into the DCU.

Blackest Night 0 really didn't move me at all. I knew it was a prelude, so I didn't really count that. Then I read #1, and while I thought it was a pretty entertaining issue, it didn't really suck me in.

I'm not sure why, but for some reason, despite all that happened, I just didn't care that dead heroes where being resurrected and in turn were killing more people.

I'm hopefull that issue 2 will do a little more to excite me. I want this to be an awesome series.

Bry


that's a fair opinion bry, I personally have read no green lantern at all since rebirth so I didn't feel any of the anticipation many felt leading up to this issue. I absolutely LOVED the issue though and I'm really looking forward to issue 2. even if I'd hated the issue I would have given it a high score because the art was absolutely freaking incredible.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 04:03 PM

BTW - as announced on the episode, if you want to be in the running to be a listener guest-host on Episode 2 of Blackest Night, post in this thread and somewhere in your post put "I want to be a listener guest-host" or something like that.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 04:36 PM

There's no need for "a" white lantern, since white is the product of all colors combined. Therefore the opposite of black is the others working together and forming white.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 05:08 PM

I haven't listened to the episode yet but I couldn't help but to jump into the thread!

QUOTE (Bryan Deemer @ Jul 20 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I felt that I should probably have explained my rating.

I enjoyed Sinestro Corp War pretty much. And since I haven't really been reading much DC at all, I was excited about the prospect of Blackest Night. I generally really enjoy Johns's writing, so I was hoping for something to suck me back into the DCU.

Blackest Night 0 really didn't move me at all. I knew it was a prelude, so I didn't really count that. Then I read #1, and while I thought it was a pretty entertaining issue, it didn't really suck me in.

I'm not sure why, but for some reason, despite all that happened, I just didn't care that dead heroes where being resurrected and in turn were killing more people.

I'm hopefull that issue 2 will do a little more to excite me. I want this to be an awesome series.

Bry

Did you finally get the second volume of Sinestro Corps War? I felt a little let down by BN #1 as well. After all the build up we experienced it kind of slowed down with this issue but I do understand that it is necessary to make it accessible to new readers.

QUOTE (rgapfrost @ Jul 20 2009, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's no need for "a" white lantern, since white is the product of all colors combined. Therefore the opposite of black is the others working together and forming white.


For some reason I am half expecting the "white lantern" to be the ultimate baddie...then again we also have infrared and ultra violet on the far ends of the spectrums...(I got that from the Lantern Cast).

QUOTE (Peter @ Jul 20 2009, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW - as announced on the episode, if you want to be in the running to be a listener guest-host on Episode 2 of Blackest Night, post in this thread and somewhere in your post put "I want to be a listener guest-host" or something like that.


...other forums members wanted to know if there was a limit to how many episodes they can guest host on? I tried explaining that you probably want everyone to have a turn...right? wink.gif
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (rgapfrost @ Jul 20 2009, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's no need for "a" white lantern, since white is the product of all colors combined. Therefore the opposite of black is the others working together and forming white.


Like this?


or this?


See, this is the trap and the best argument for not having a joining of the rings or white lantern.
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (Peter @ Jul 20 2009, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW - as announced on the episode, if you want to be in the running to be a listener guest-host on Episode 2 of Blackest Night, post in this thread and somewhere in your post put "I want to be a listener guest-host" or something like that.


Just like reborn put me in the running.

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