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Chicago Minicomics Show Someone stop me.

#1 User is online   neil-brideau 

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 02:59 AM

Sooooo, despite what I would argue is a pretty sensible head on my shoulders, I've decided to organize a minicomics show in Chicago. The idea being, Chicago deserves a show thematically similar to MoCCA or SPX or Stumptown, though wicked smaller for now. I've emailed some folks for advice, and received some responses, so now I wanted to present some of the ideas to y'all here on the forums, 'cause this is such a supportive environment.

The overwhelming response I got from folks was "the indier the better," making the show a real celebration of comics that are made with one's heart and hands. That big names are exciting, but not as interesting as smaller creators. And that the show should be both financially feasible and enlightening/energizing for attendees and exhibitors.

I'm not sure about when to host it, I was thinking sometime in 2010, and the two months that stood out to me were late February (after Valentines Day), and July. But I honestly have no good idea as to what the most convenient time would be. I don't want to step on Windy City Comicon's toes at all, but I wouldn't care (might even enjoy) if it were scheduled on the same weekend as Wizard World, because that show is dumb.

So here are my current logistical thoughts:

I want to coordinate housing for out-of-towners, so as to cut back on travelers' expenses. As long as people are cool with sleeping on couches, I can find them a place to sleep.

I'm debating whether exhibiting and/or attending should be free, or cost a tiny amount of money. Some people have suggested that a free event suggests a lack of worth. And that even a tiny fee, $10 for half a table, and $5 to get in would make the show seem "worth it" to attend, and could easily be waved for tons of reasons (which then makes attendees feel special).

Friday night: Opening party at a bar or gallery or comics shop with entertaining talks, presentations & readings. I'd really like the presenters to be folks who can captivate an audience through a dynamic presentation, excited talks or amazing performance. This event would be free, as it would be a great way to get the public interested in the show the next day.

Saturday: Exhibition at a VFW or Art Museum/Gallery or Library or Something like that, the space should be big enough to accommodate Chicago's pool of amazing comics folks, as well as out-of-towners. Meanwhile, hosting workshops on how to make comics throughout the day, as a means to both celebrate the populist qualities of minicomics, as well as making the day as more of an event, keeping attendees there all day.

Saturday night: a casual closing party at a comics shop or bar, with no programming really, just a winding down event, maybe the ubiquitous karaoke.

Sunday: I've got three ideas:
1. Drier traditional lectures, try to get Chris Ware and Ivan Brunetti out of hiding to meekly speek into microphones at the library.
2. Workshops, working meetings, and other events designed to facilitate an exchange of ideas between creators (and I guess readers), on comics, how to make, produce and market them, or maybe just a big room in which folks could draw together.
3. Nothing, let folks spend some time running around Chicago before they have to jump back on a plane or Amtrak.

Of course I'll need to advertise the CRAP out of the show, I'd feel terrible if folks committed their time to exhibit, and then nobody showed up.

And now the most fun part of the discussion, the name. Also, the part that's giving me one of the biggest headaches, here are some (terrible) ideas:
ExCITE: The Exposition of Comics In Tiny Editions
The Sequential Art and Story Show (SASS?)
The Minicomics Show
Hearts and Stars Minicomics Show(Chicago's flag has red stars on it)
Hearts and Hands Comics Show
Selfpublished Comics Conference
XOXO Minicomics Festival
The Best Comics Show Ever
Masturbating Storm

I know this post is frickin' long as a merf, but any advice would be greater than great. I'm seeking advice from a bunch of folks, but would love advice from any of y'all.

This post has been edited by neil-brideau: 23 June 2009 - 03:02 AM

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#2 User is offline   chrisruggia 

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 01:53 PM

You could call it

Awesomest
The Best Comics Show Ever

Sorry, I have no other suggestions. I will leave that to the wise and / or knowledgeable.
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 08:54 PM

ChiME (Chicago Minicomics Exposition)?
ChiCA (Chicago Comics Arts) Festival?
ChiMP (Chicago Minicomics Parade)? Primates seem to do well.

Okay, so I'm not much help on the naming front. I just want to say, Neil, that I really hope this happens, and I will buy my ticket to Chicago without a second thought the moment you announce the dates.
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 10:26 PM

Neil WOW!

Kudos to you for doing this a few things.

1. FIND a small venue. Don't go large. You can ALWAYS outgrow your space. And from years doing theatre, what gets people talking is if it's crowded. It doesn't matter if you only have 200 people show. If its in a space that holds 150, people will feel that energy and that it is a success.

2. February in Chicago. YIKES! I think that would not be fun. I think July or a spring month is best. or Fall. Fall is always nice as well.

3. I'd say go for a Saturday Sunday show as mocca and others do. And Friday could and should be an optional kind of party thing. Meet and Greet etc.

4. Free. I'd say HECK NO. I do agree that if it's free it seems to have no value. Even a $5 entry is good. As are table fees. A must. All of this will help you. Cuz you ARE going to incure costs. MANY costs that you don't forsee.

5. And the fun part.. the name! haha.. True. As you know people really like the titles that become something. APE, STAPLE, MOCCA.

So I think you are onto something if it is an acronym that means something.

My FAVES:

XOXO Minicomics Festival (reminds me of SXSW)
CHIMP (Chicago Minicomics Parade) - A nice parody or nod to APE.
ExCITE: The Exposition of Comics In Tiny Editions
SASS: The Sequential Art and Story Show

ok thats my 2 cents. DEF keep us posted and want to hear more.







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#5 User is offline   chrisruggia 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 10:48 PM

You would go for CHiMP, MonkeyMan!

Yeah, I read Bertozzi's strip in Awesome. I know the deal.
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 11:25 PM

I love this idea. An indy-fest closer to Milwaukee than any other gets five and a half thumbs up from me.

Also, Wizard World is gone after this summer. The peeps who put together the NYCC are taking over the Chi-Con and moving it to sometime in the spring. Something to fill the gap between MoCCA and SPX would be great.

The best I could do for a name is Second City Small Press Fest. No nifty acronym, but the alliteration is nice and it nearly rhymes.
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#7 User is online   neil-brideau 

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 04:30 AM

Awesome! Thanks y'all. Someone else suggested "Chimp," but he pointed out the similarity to APE, which might be weird. I would love to offer a free show (as I'm really into free things), but the more I think about it and talk to people, the more I realize how it really should cost SOMETHING.

Welcome to the forum Boy Blue!
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 02:31 PM

If I were putting on a local show anywhere, the first thing I would do is consult Tom Spurgeon's list of "Comics By Local Scene" and make sure I extended at least a personal invitation, if not a free table, to most of the notable cartoonists in the area. It seems to me that if you can seed your exhibitors list with a few bigger names to start, it'll be easier to get others to sign up.
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 05:37 PM

I think this is an awesome idea. we really need something like this in chicago and the midwest.
any help you need, please let me know, i'm pretty good at organizing and i know lots of artists and people who'd be into this. and my gallery isnt big but you are more then welcome to use it.
i would charge at least something for the tables. unless you plan on paying for all this out of pocket and/or getting sponsors to pay, you'd want to at least cover your costs. space, promotion, programs, ect kinda add up.
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#10 User is offline   Neil Jam 

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (d_beyer_jr @ Jun 26 2009, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, Wizard World is gone after this summer. The peeps who put together the NYCC are taking over the Chi-Con and moving it to sometime in the spring. Something to fill the gap between MoCCA and SPX would be great.


Those NYCC peeps are not taking over Wizard World. They are simply putting on an all new Chicago show of their own. Even though Wizard has been having some issues in recent years, I do not anticipate their Chicago show going away anytime soon.

I actually rather like the "ChiMP" name-- how about "ChiMP" for Chicago Minicomics Palooza? It gives a great (and appropriate) nod to APE and also kind of ties it directly to Chicago.
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Neil Jam @ Jun 27 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Those NYCC peeps are not taking over Wizard World. They are simply putting on an all new Chicago show of their own. Even though Wizard has been having some issues in recent years, I do not anticipate their Chicago show going away anytime soon.

I actually rather like the "ChiMP" name-- how about "ChiMP" for Chicago Minicomics Palooza? It gives a great (and appropriate) nod to APE and also kind of ties it directly to Chicago.


I like ChiMP, too. Great poster possibilities.
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 12:14 AM

Eliza,

Thanks so much! I'm totally going to take you up on the help offer, and possibly the offer of the space. I'll have to look at it again.

As far as ChiMP goes, I've got an issue with appropriation, and while it's not cultural appropriation, a name like ChiMP will definitely connect people's minds to APE. As much as I've heard great things about the show, I've never been, and feel kind of weird naming the Chicago show so closely to APE. Maybe that's just a good excuse to go to APE.

I'm gonna list some weekends (Friday, Saturday & Sunday) anyone have see any glaring problems with any of them, or reasons why a weekend should be selected above another.
June 25, 26, 27
July 9, 10, 11
July 30, 31, August 1
August 6, 7, 8
November 5, 6, 7

Thanks for everybody's input!


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Posted 30 June 2009 - 04:07 PM

I vote for June or early July. With MoCCA diving atop the April pigpile, there's going to be a long, lonely expanse between it and S.P.X. And while I'm not excited about having to choose between MoCCA and Stumptown, Chicago does seem like a more sensible place than New York for a summer show.

Also, as the poster who initially suggested ChiMP, I feel it's my responsibility to note that I think it's a terrible name.

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 06:43 PM

I kinda like SASS.
Windi Mini?
I like "fest" or "festival" b/c...it's festive. It sounds funner.
Working in a reference to Chicago in the name would also be nice, b/c it says "along with the show you can also see all this cool stuff in Chicago."
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#15 User is online   neil-brideau 

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE (blockhead @ Jun 30 2009, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I kinda like SASS.
Windi Mini?
I like "fest" or "festival" b/c...it's festive. It sounds funner.
Working in a reference to Chicago in the name would also be nice, b/c it says "along with the show you can also see all this cool stuff in Chicago."


I've been tossing the name "Big Shoulders Comics Fest" or "Big Shoulders Minicomics Fest" as a reference to Chicago.


The NYCC folks' Chicago Show is called the Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo or C2E2 and is occurring in....wait for it....APRIL!

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 12:51 AM

QUOTE (neil-brideau @ Jun 30 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been tossing the name "Big Shoulders Comics Fest" or "Big Shoulders Minicomics Fest" as a reference to Chicago.



Neil - I think this is a fantastic idea.

BIG Shoulders MINI Comics Fest - that's my favorite so far, nice memorable contrasts. And as much as I like apes and monkeys CHIMP doesn't really say "comics".

I won't pretend like I know anything about putting together a comic book convention (unlike all those pussies who whined about the last Mocca Fest - OH SNAP!), but with any large undertaking like this the best advice I can give is ASK FOR HELP - not just advice or opinions, but real HELP. Ask local cartoonists to commit to exhibiting, have people do leg work finding possible venues, line up volunteers early (double what you'll actually need - by nature, 50% or more of all volunteer members tend drop out/quit/don't give a shit) etc.

Ask other fest organizers for advice! How to get started, where to hold it, what kind of permits you need, etc.

Lining up a big local name like say, Chris Ware, could be a tremendous draw and will get other people on board quickly. I think the second Mocca Fest had Frank Miller do a signing.

Sponsorships give a big boost too - hook up with a art-friendly business who can loan/donate funds to help organize or bring in/house guests in exchange for putting their name on the programs, website.

Or you could just start small and have some people set up in a local pool hall or something - it's YOUR VISION, just do what you think will be best.

Good luck man!
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 01:51 AM

Dang.

I love how much people are coming to this thread and willing to help! IZZER ARMY RULEZ!

Fine you guys got me on the CHIMP.

I do like the Big shoulders one as well as the Second City. Do Chicagoan's get sick of that though?

And dang... That Ryan Dunlavey..he's got some good suggestions, it's like he knows what he's talking about or something .

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#18 User is online   neil-brideau 

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 08:53 PM

Thanks Ryan!

I have been dragging my feet in terms of getting others involved, beyond suggestions. So, yeah I should totally get some help.

I'm also getting a lot of help from a group of show organizers who started an online support group early this year.

Those are all really great suggestions. This input is awesome!
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 01:09 PM

Ooo, now that I'm moving to Michigan, this is something I would totally come out for.

As for dates, I would do it as far away from SDCC as possible (ergo not near end of July). SDCC is big enough that it will draw comic fans and creators away. I think you want to find an event desert and fill it. I know a lot of people went to Stumptown last year because it was the first show of the year and people were dying for a little action. Hot mini-to-mini action. If you find a time when nothing is going on, you'll harness a lot of energy. I'm curious about November. What's November like in Chicago? What about October? Are there any big fall shows? Wizard World Chicago is end of August, right?

And names? While I like ChiMP, I think it IS too close to APE. I was thinking along these lines:

Chicago Mini & Chicago Magazine & Chicago Real Excellent Expo

ChiM ChiM ChiREE

Neil. If you build it, I will come.

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 02:11 AM

okay, i've got it, i've got it. the Second City Arts and Minicomics (SCAM) festival. right? who's with me?

more to the point, neil, it's time to put your money where your mouth is about asking for help. what can we do? obviously, i'm not from around those parts, but if there's any assistance i can offer remotely, i'm all about it.

less to the point, if you do end up going with "big shoulders [whatever]," i'm going to start referring to it as the "big show" for short and adorable.

k.
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