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#1 User is offline   brydeemer 

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 11:31 AM

More secrets, more war.

Listen here

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:37 PM

Yeah!!!!!!
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:56 PM

With my idea about BattleWorld having a lingering post-hypnotic suggestion for people to act out their core personality traits; I wasn't trying to suggest that Shooter had his shit wired tight and that he had thought out an in-continuity reason why certain characters were acting a-kilter from their contemporary depictions in their 'home' comics; I was just trying to go for a CGS No-Prize. I do think it works, even if one considers that the Beyonder may not have even done it consciously due to him having such a primitive consciousness himself. Those core traits of everyone may have been only as much of a handle he could get on them all and thus forced them to behave those ways as part of the process by which he teleported them across the universe and reconstituted them.

One suggestions: When y'all get to issue 12, talk about the various ways the Beyonder's been treated following the main mini, with a bit about SWII but mostly about the various appearances here and there such as 'SWIII' and the appearance in the Illuminati.

Other suggestion: maybe a mention of the very-keen BEYOND! mini from a couple years ago. If y'all haven't read it, do so. I love Scott Kolins because he's got a very 80s art style, with a focus on the craft of telling the story over the art of making a bunch of pinups with words thrown over them.

Other other suggestion: perhaps a mention of the Marvel Universe figure 2packs that're gonna start hitting the streets in a month or two with reprints of the SW comic.
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Posted 24 May 2009 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE (AdrienVeidt @ May 22 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With my idea about BattleWorld having a lingering post-hypnotic suggestion for people to act out their core personality traits; I wasn't trying to suggest that Shooter had his shit wired tight and that he had thought out an in-continuity reason why certain characters were acting a-kilter from their contemporary depictions in their 'home' comics; I was just trying to go for a CGS No-Prize. I do think it works, even if one considers that the Beyonder may not have even done it consciously due to him having such a primitive consciousness himself. Those core traits of everyone may have been only as much of a handle he could get on them all and thus forced them to behave those ways as part of the process by which he teleported them across the universe and reconstituted them.

One suggestions: When y'all get to issue 12, talk about the various ways the Beyonder's been treated following the main mini, with a bit about SWII but mostly about the various appearances here and there such as 'SWIII' and the appearance in the Illuminati.

Other suggestion: maybe a mention of the very-keen BEYOND! mini from a couple years ago. If y'all haven't read it, do so. I love Scott Kolins because he's got a very 80s art style, with a focus on the craft of telling the story over the art of making a bunch of pinups with words thrown over them.

Other other suggestion: perhaps a mention of the Marvel Universe figure 2packs that're gonna start hitting the streets in a month or two with reprints of the SW comic.


Very interesting!
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 11:41 PM

Eh, there's a big difference between "decompression" and writing a story that's slow and/or repetitive in the telling. I think that confusion might arise due to the fact that Secret Wars, like many contemporary "decompressed" comics, might seem to have a lot of "wasted space", i.e. panels that don't do much in the way of progressing the story forward. It seems like Shooter has entire issues where 70% of the panels are just the heroes and villains passing the time in conversation--but that's not "decompression", because a lot stuff is happening in each panel, it just isn't interesting stuff. If Secret Wars had tons of big silent panels, or splash pages, or if it showed five pages of Colossus just staring longingly at Zsagi the healer while the sun rose and set in the background, that would be decompression. If it took five pages to show Galactus's home silently approaching the planet, that would be decompression.

On the other hand, just because something's "decompressed" doesn't mean it's mostly superfluous. You could have a "decompressed" comic that takes many panels to tell a simple story, with every panel devoted to moving the story along at a significant rate of story development per panel or whatever.

I do agree, though, that all of Secret Wars could have been done in 5-6 issues. Were it actually "decompressed" in the modern style, though, gosh...it'd take like 36 issues to tell the same story.
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