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Episode 532 Talkback: Let's Talk Shop with Wild Pig Comics

#1 User is offline   brydeemer 

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 12:05 PM

Talk shop.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 01:13 PM

Hearing Jamie talk about people trying to sell the old books for top dollar reminded me of the real estate days of my dad,

When selling a house in Aus, it gets valued between a 30'000 dollar range, so you would be told its worth between 200'000 and 230'000. With out fail no matter what, everyone selling would put there house up on the market at the highest dollar quoted.
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 02:57 PM

OMG finally, people speaking the language! zyfingerdance.gif - thanks for this show! Thank you for talking about grading, don't be the victim of pulled centerfolds, rusted staples, or the smallest amounts of water damage etc, etc.

The idea of a book like X-Men#94 (or whatever) in lowgrade going up in value beyond competing against inflation is a bit of a longshot excluding very rare exceptions. There are very few books post-Golden Age that has sees real movement in low grade. Even by the Silver Age people were 'collecting' and they were printed in such large numbers there is no supply/demand battle to raise prices. It's not like these are books with small print runs like today that have been reduced over decades - we are talking 100's of thousands regarding print run for a lot of this stuff. Buying low grade books for investment purpose or even the idea of price increase in calculable terms is a pretty fruitless endeavor.

This is why anybody who wants to read any of these back issue its very affordable to do so as low grade books go for smaller percentages of guide. You should never pay premiums for book books not in incredible condition from the Silver Age on minus a very few exceptions.

Good point on the low-print run of comics today and potential value, but I think you overestimate the percentages that would get damaged - people buying books amount to less number today but I'd bet the ones that are left are the ones that are rather careful with their books.

Deathmate (Image/VALIANT Crossover) can't sell for no quarter! That print run is incredible happystrange.png
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 03:17 PM

Don't have time to listen to this one until the ride home tonight but let me just say that as a guy who has bought a lot of back issues in recent years [and high grade ones primarily], Chris is THE fairest vendor I've encountered. He regularly sells books at grades that 90+% of the time would be ratcheted up two or more ratings in many other outlets, including many well known high end vendors you see at major cons, and certainly anything you would buy unslabbed off eBay.

My only regret is that, because Chris is so fair, his sales sometimes invite speculators who come in and buy up books solely for the intent of flipping them on eBay. Hopefully the state of the economy and eBay's declining utility will crimp that this time out.

But if you're at all in the area for his sale, you're doing yourself a huge disservice to not go check out what he's offering.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 03:28 PM

Monthly comics at $5 vs reading an entire output online for $30 a year?

I'm quitting comics. Seriously.

I spend too much time on the computer so as it is - I'm out of the hobby if I can only get content online and have to wait for the trade. I'm not that patient.
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 03:34 PM

QUOTE (Peter @ Oct 22 2008, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Monthly comics at $5 vs reading an entire output online for $30 a year?

I'm quitting comics. Seriously.

I spend too much time on the computer so as it is - I'm out of the hobby if I can only get content online and have to wait for the trade. I'm not that patient.


But $30 a year is perfect for someone as broke-ass as you whistle.gif


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Posted 22 October 2008 - 03:38 PM

Still can't do it. It's weird and doesn't make sense - I get that. But online comics should be free. FREEE!!!! lol

By the way - the DMZ trades are already in Will's hands. smile.gif
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 03:54 PM

Show notes and links are up: http://www.comicgeekspeak.com/episodes/com...k_speak-678.php
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 03:57 PM

Does Wild Pig have pulps, 30's and pre-30's pulps?
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Jay Tomio @ Oct 22 2008, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does Wild Pig have pulps, 30's and pre-30's pulps?


I don't want to say "No" with certainty, but I don't recall seeing them at any of the previous sales.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE (Peter @ Oct 22 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still can't do it. It's weird and doesn't make sense - I get that. But online comics should be free. FREEE!!!! lol

By the way - the DMZ trades are already in Will's hands. smile.gif


YES! I'm looking at them as i type this. Thanks again Peter!
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (Wood @ Oct 22 2008, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't want to say "No" with certainty, but I don't recall seeing them at any of the previous sales.


Thanks for the info!

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 06:49 PM

Wild Pig usually has a nice stash of magazines as well which rarely gets talked about. I know I saw a bunch of 2000ADs, stuff from TwoMorrows, etc. There's usually a nice shelf or two (or three) and several long boxes full of magazines and reference books, etc.
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (Peter @ Oct 22 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wild Pig usually has a nice stash of magazines as well which rarely gets talked about. I know I saw a bunch of 2000ADs, stuff from TwoMorrows, etc. There's usually a nice shelf or two (or three) and several long boxes full of magazines and reference books, etc.


Yep. Two sales back I picked up 8 or 9 Back Issues from TwoMorrows.


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Posted 22 October 2008 - 07:43 PM

I am at the point where I am really at a low point in my collecting. Outside of Super Show I don't think I have bought more than 20 comics the last two months. If that many. Two weeks ago I actually walked in the store and didn't buy anything! Most of this is due to my planning to trade Secret Invasion and the tie-ins. I am planning to wait for the Motor City Comicon to hit the dollar bins for the current stuff. I think I am now approaching my comic buying like car buying which is buy it used or buy it at a deep discount. I would love to shop at DCBS but that would blow my budget.

That being said it looks like my buying is going to be 1) Ten comics at my LCS 2) Trades which I think has a better resale value than floppies. 3) $1 bins. I also need to check out the Marvel DCU.
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 07:59 PM

Hmm, that's about 43 minutes from my exit, I might end up going to this. But the shop seems really small for this, and what exactly goes on at the sale to make it really worth it? I'm don't mean to be rude, I'm just trying to justify me going; thanks.
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 08:07 PM

You need something more than just a sale? lol. Believe me it's enough. .50c bins, half off trades. If you want cheap comics and are nearby with some cash to spend, that's all you need.

And then say hello to fellow CGS forum people/listeners.

And then get some sketches from Danielle and Erica.

Grab a donut at Dunkin' and it's a good day.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (exwingzero @ Oct 22 2008, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But the shop seems really small for this


It's small, but it's not exactly tiny. For the first hour or so you will feel crammed in, but the deals make it worth it.

QUOTE (exwingzero @ Oct 22 2008, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what exactly goes on at the sale to make it really worth it? I'm don't mean to be rude, I'm just trying to justify me going


How about 50% off? That's the whole reason for going. You will get a bunch of stuff at unbelievable prices. It's well worth it for me to drive 2 hours to get there. At 43 minutes don't even hesitate.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (Peter @ Oct 22 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You need something more than just a sale? lol. Believe me it's enough. .50c bins, half off trades. If you want cheap comics and are nearby with some cash to spend, that's all you need.

And then say hello to fellow CGS forum people/listeners.

And then get some sketches from Danielle and Erica.

Grab a donut at Dunkin' and it's a good day.

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Heck, I'm seriously considering coming from MARYLAND... 45 minutes away? That's a no brainer.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (exwingzero @ Oct 22 2008, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, that's about 43 minutes from my exit, I might end up going to this. But the shop seems really small for this, and what exactly goes on at the sale to make it really worth it? I'm don't mean to be rude, I'm just trying to justify me going; thanks.


The key between this sale and others you may have experienced are:

1) Chris grades his stuff REALLY fairly...so 50% off is a LEGIT 50% off. I have bought wall books that would've cost me 5-10x the price were I to buy them slabbed or properly graded at a big con or online

2) While the store may look small, he will have 40,000+ back issues

3) The back issues are alphabetized. This is HUGE as you try to pour through hundreds of long boxes hunting for bargains

4) I've been to other stores that have "50% off" sales on back issues but this isn't that kind of store. The lion's share of stuff is $0.50-$1 and only very high quality "collector" back issues are more than that and, as I said already, Chris starts at Overstreet or lower and you get a legit 50% off that

5) The trades and collected edition selection is awesome. I would recommend being there at the opening to get that stuff though b/c it's hard for anyone to say no to 50% trades. I came away with 50% a bunch of EC Archives, an Omnibus and about 10 other hardcovers last sale

6) There will be geeks aplenty there from the show and the forums

7) You get an additional $5 off for mentioning CGS

8) The raffle is the shit. At 2 pm if you're there, Chris gives away a TON of cool schwag.


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