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Episode 2 Talkback: Dungeon

#1 User is offline   brydeemer 

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:01 PM

Have fun.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:58 PM

Nice, I was just wondering when this was coming.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 05:59 AM

Ok, gotta say, classic case of "you can't judge a book by it's cover". I personally don't care too much for cartoony art style. I tend more towards more realistic art (can you tell?) so when I went to NBM's site to look this book up, I was turned off by the art. But listening to this episode, I think I'm going to have to give it a shot. Being a longtime gamer, I totally love the premise of this book and it sounds like the author does a lot with it.

Thanks guys.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Katapult @ Jun 26 2008, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, gotta say, classic case of "you can't judge a book by it's cover". I personally don't care too much for cartoony art style. I tend more towards more realistic art (can you tell?) so when I went to NBM's site to look this book up, I was turned off by the art. But listening to this episode, I think I'm going to have to give it a shot. Being a longtime gamer, I totally love the premise of this book and it sounds like the author does a lot with it.

Thanks guys.

-kat


I really don't think you will be disappointed. I was totally in your shoes, but I ended up loving it.

Check it out, and we can discuss it in San Diego.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 12:42 PM

I never knew there was so much in-depth work for having a book translated for American audiences. The behind the scenes look for the craft was very fascinating to me and thanks for bringing that type of insight to the show.

Now, as far as Dungeon goes, you have peaked my curiosity. After I remove myself from the poor-house, where can I find this book again? Thanks!

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (optimusblack2007 @ Jun 26 2008, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, as far as Dungeon goes, you have peaked my curiosity. After I remove myself from the poor-house, where can I find this book again? Thanks!

-Shawn


Just search on Amazon. That's how I found it.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:35 PM

Did you know that the creators have planned to do 300(!!!) books in the Donjon universe ?

Although this website is in German you should check it out >>>> http://www.donjon.ch.vu/

It has been voted the best German site related to Donjon. So click around. It has pictures....or learn German, verdammt nochmal!!


And thanks for spreading the word, Bry!




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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:42 PM

the world's best website about Donjon is in French (of course) >>>>> http://www.bibou.org/donjon/

great stuff to be seen there thumbsup_anim.gif


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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:31 PM

I didn't quite catch it on the episode. Can anyone list where is the best place to start Dungeon the list on amazon is a little confusing.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE (BATFAN1066 @ Jun 27 2008, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't quite catch it on the episode. Can anyone list where is the best place to start Dungeon the list on amazon is a little confusing.


The first book is Dungeon: Zenith Volume 1 - Duck Heart Amazon

Then Dungeon: The Early Years Volume 1 - The Night Shirt Amazon

Then Dungeon: Twilight Volume 1 - The Dragon Cemetry Amazon

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (Bryan Deemer @ Jun 27 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The first book is Dungeon: Zenith Volume 1 - Duck Heart Amazon

Then Dungeon: The Early Years Volume 1 - The Night Shirt Amazon

Then Dungeon: Twilight Volume 1 - The Dragon Cemetry Amazon

Bry



Thanks I am really looking forward to checking these out!
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 04:24 AM

QUOTE (Bryan Deemer @ Jun 25 2008, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have fun.

Bryan and Matt, I can't thank you both enough for recording these episodes and focusing on such a fantastic example of comics at their very best. Today on the way home from work I started Episode #2, and while I've only made it a few minutes into the show, I think it may be one of my favorite podcasts ever. You guys are doing an excellent job right out of the gate, and I can assure you, it is much appreciated.

QUOTE (optimusblack2007 @ Jun 26 2008, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, as far as Dungeon goes, you have peaked my curiosity. After I remove myself from the poor-house, where can I find this book again?

Shawn, as Bryan mentioned above, you can find all the Dungeon books at Amazon, although the availability of certain volumes fluctuates from week to week -- as does the price to some extent, so I would suggest creating a wishlist (if you haven't already) and adding each of the specific books you're interested in so you can easily monitor the price of each one from day to day.

Also, I woud suggest comparing prices at other online vendors; specifically, Buy.com and Tower.com, both of which carry most of the available Dungeon volumes (in English, at least), and who also offer free shipping on orders of $25 or more for at least some of the Dungeon books. Last night I finally ordered the last three volumes I needed to catch up on the series, and two of the books were out of stock at both Amazon and Buy.com. I checked Tower.com and discovered that, not only did they have both of the books in stock, but they also had the third volume I needed for less than either of the other two vendors, and I ended up getting all three books for $30, which qualified the order for free shipping. So, a little comparison can save you some money, fo' sho!

QUOTE (BATFAN1066 @ Jun 27 2008, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't quite catch it on the episode. Can anyone list where is the best place to start Dungeon the list on amazon is a little confusing.

As far as the chronological order of the stories themselves is concerned, it goes like this:

1. Dungeon The Early Years Vol. 1: The Night Shirt
2. Dungeon Zenith Vol. 1: Duck Heart
3. Dungeon Parade Vol. 1: A Dungeon Too Many
4. Dungeon Parade Vol. 2: Day of the Toads
5. Dungeon Zenith Vol. 2: The Barbarian Princess
6. Dungeon Twilight Vol. 1: Dragon Cemetary
7. Dungeon Twilight Vol. 2: Armageddon

"Dungeon Monstres Vol. 1: The Crying Giant" (available now) and "Dungeon Monstres Vol. 2: The Dark Lord" (solicited in the June issue of Previews, and currently available as a pre-order from the retailers mentioned above) focus on "secondary" characters in the Dungeon universe, and I'm not sure where the stories fall in the overall continuity. And again, this order doesn't necessarily reflect how Bryan and Matt are approaching their analysis of the series, it's just the order in which the stories actually take place.

Mercy... have I made a proper ass out of myself at this point, or what? glasses.gif
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (Kaptain Sequential @ Jul 1 2008, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as the chronological order of the stories themselves is concerned, it goes like this:

Yeah... sooo, I finished the episode around 2:00 this morning and obviously discovered that Matt covers the Dungeon chronology in detail, after the interview with Mr. Johnson (which was absolutely fantastic, by the way). So I wasn't trying to ignore that at all; I just hadn't made it to that point in the episode yet.

Fellas, thanks again for a highly informative and supremely entertaining episode! thumbsup_anim.gif

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 02:52 AM

Thanks for the amazon links....I ordered the first book to try it out...it sounds like an interesting series.

QUOTE (Bryan Deemer @ Jun 27 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The first book is Dungeon: Zenith Volume 1 - Duck Heart Amazon

Then Dungeon: The Early Years Volume 1 - The Night Shirt Amazon

Then Dungeon: Twilight Volume 1 - The Dragon Cemetry Amazon

Bry


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Posted 03 July 2008 - 10:54 AM

QUOTE (Kaptain Sequential @ Jul 2 2008, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah... sooo, I finished the episode around 2:00 this morning and obviously discovered that Matt covers the Dungeon chronology in detail, after the interview with Mr. Johnson (which was absolutely fantastic, by the way). So I wasn't trying to ignore that at all; I just hadn't made it to that point in the episode yet.

Fellas, thanks again for a highly informative and supremely entertaining episode! thumbsup_anim.gif


I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm having a blast doing these episodes. I wish I had time to do more of them.

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:32 AM

Thanks, guys!

It's also worth mentioning that if you WANT to attempt the French -- and getting these books and working 'em side-by-side with the English is a great way to pick up the language -- the first three volumes of each Donjon series are currently bundled for about $30 up here in Quebec: Parade, Zenith, Poitron-Minet (Early Years) and Crépuscule (Twilight). On my bédé site I've got some contact information for various retailers:

http://venerable-bede.com/?cat=11

I'm really impressed with the Planete BD guys.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 12:26 PM

I just wanted to pop in and say thanks for expanding my horizons a bit. I haven't yet read any of this stuff but I love the addition to the CGS show. I've learned some cool stuff about this branch of comics that I had never heard of before. Of particular interest was the creator talking about the challenges of translation. I used to work for a Finnish man and sometimes he would try to translate cliches to me and they just didn't make much sense in English.

Reading American comics I feel like I need a translator sometimes - like anything by Joss Whedon. Love the guy but he has such a bizarre sense of Valley-Girl language or whatever it's supposed to be. I have dubbed it "Buffyspeak" and "Frayspeak" because Fray is even more difficult.

My husband warned me that Narcopolis could use a decoder ring as well. And these are examples of books in English!
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:14 PM

Just started listening to this, and I've already learned one important fact: Joann Sfar is not a woman. Based on the spelling, I just assumed Joann was pronounced like the girl's name JoAnne, you know? Look at the science you're dropping on me with this thing, Deemer! laughingsmiley.gif

Anyway, I've heard of Dungeon, but I didn't know it was done by Sfar (whose work I love love loved on The Professor's Daughter and enjoyed on Sardine) and Trondheim (whose work I love love loved on Mister O and was really icked out by on A.L.I.E.E.E.N.), so that's got my curiosity piqued right there.
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 06:54 PM

So is the first volume of the Zenith series of Dungeon called Duckheart? Because that's what I just requested through the library and I wanna make sure I'm getting the right thing.
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Posted 05 September 2008 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (Library Boy @ Sep 4 2008, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So is the first volume of the Zenith series of Dungeon called Duckheart? Because that's what I just requested through the library and I wanna make sure I'm getting the right thing.


It is! I hope you enjoy it!
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